Hi All! Anyone here considering the Maven Course GTM Engineer Foundations? Would love to hear your thoughts on yes, no. I'm currently on my first GTME position (after several years in Ops; self-taught in Clay with 6mo experience and I would love to develop stronger strategic and analytical perspective - stronger framworks, deeper knowledge on tech and cold email. At the same time, I could benefit from a more structure path of Clay Learning so I'm torn!
Is this the one hosted by Yash?
Yes!!
Also what is your #1 weakness when it comes to GTME right now - in your words?
My biggest gap is that I'm building everything intuitively without systematic frameworks. TL;DR - I can figure things out, but I'm reinventing wheels that probably have established best practices I just don't know yet. For example: I recently needed to develop a nationwide scraping strategy and had to manually research and build the logic for zoom levels, pagination, and query combos for different city sizes. It worked, but took way longer than it should have. Same with AI copy - my first full AI-generated campaign took 7-10 prompt iterations to get something that actually drove CTA engagement. I was essentially reverse-engineering sales frameworks through trial and error instead of applying proven patterns. Right now I'm also operating without the infrastructure that should be standard - no automated signal tracking, no systematic performance monitoring. I'm manually exporting CSVs from Instantly and analyzing patterns campaign-by-campaign.
Txs Ryan! Would you still recommend this to someone who has been self taught on Clay and that has been working on the tool for 6 months?
I just put this together, let me know if you have any questions! 🙂 Personally, I'm selftaught.
Luján L. - depends if you need a refresher or not. I'm thinking they will develop cohort 2 a bit more from what they did in cohort 1, but I'm not entirely sure what that looks like. I thought it was excellent, but I was not as far along as you are now with Clay. If they develop a more advanced GTM Engineering class using more than Clay (or with very advanced Clay usage - whatever that looks like), then probably worth it, but if you're comfortable using Clay every day then it might be just a refresher of what you already taught yourself. Do you feel comfortable enough getting any of Clay certifications? If yes, then probably too foundational a course. But then again, I don't know what cohort 2 will look like. Hope this helps!
Are you already working in the field and have access to the software?
Hello everyone! First of all I wanted to say thank you for all your answers. Willy H. - the graph you shared is very helpful! I kept coming back to it, trying to reflect and identify where I'm at! As for Ryan M.'s question - I think yes but it would take me a significant amount of time to level up some of my skills. Like I feel good as trying and I do feel like I know enough to figure it out on my own with the right amount of time. And lastly, Bashir S. - yes I do. I have been working 100% of my time on Clay since August.
Late to catch up here, thanks Tyler P. for tagging me. Luján L. everyone's learning path is as unique as their skills, interests, natural abilities, and career vision. If you like structured learning, Clay is an excellent foundation - Clay Cohorts, Clay certifications were transformative for me, they gave me best practice technical skills & workflow fundamentals to build on. I invested in Agent SEVEN (https://blueprintgtm.com/) to learn the principles of prompt engineering, but I lean on 25 years business experience to craft relevant agents for lead gen, segmentation & scoring, & everything else. Ultimately the best learning is ON THE JOB!!! Having real client challenges to solve requires creativity, ingenuity, patience, pragmatism, and a positive attitude. I mentioned in one of my communities the other day: GTM Engineering is that it’s about deep understanding of the business context (60%) + technical skills (10%) + detective work/ figuring things out (40%). If you've been studying Clay since August then the next learning stage is real client work. With Rev Ops / Mkt / Sales experience you're (potentially) the creme de la creme of GTMes.
