Change Tech Order for Data Enrichment in Waterfall to Default to PredictLeads

Hello! How can I change the order of which tech gets used for data enrichment in the waterfall? I'm specifically trying to get it to default to PredictLeads over Builtwith. Thanks!

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Benjamin K.
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https://app.clay.com/workspaces/232841/tables/t_UUvXLJGDYtTU/views/gv_35uRE8pwjocz
Benjamin K.
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What's the ETA on getting a response?
Benjamin K.
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Benjamin K.
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How do I change the order of these?
Clay T.
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Hey Benjamin, So sorry for the delay! I am taking a look now. You can change the order of this when you select the tech stack waterfall enrichment in the enrich data tab. When you have the waterfall settings open, you can use mouse cursor to drag the provider you want to be at the top upwards. I noticed you already have the PredictLead enrichment column in your table. Would you like to add Builtwith to run for rows that have no results? I can set this up for you.
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Benjamin K.
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Hi Daniela, I do appreciate your willingness to do this on my behalf. Nevertheless, I'm more of a guy who likes to learn how to fish. I am unable to locate the feature for editing the Tech Stack as you've shown a screenshot of.
Clay T.
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Hey Benjamin, that's totally fine!✨ In the screenshot you shared, "Tech Stack" under Waterfall (with the logos) is where you can find this. When you select that, it'll show a menu (shown in my screenshot) where you can reorder or remove any of the technology enrichments listed. However, this does not apply to the Predict leads enrichment already run in your table. Re-ordering/editing a waterfall enrichment can only be done during set-up before you select and save and run. Let me know if this helps!
Benjamin K.
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Thanks that does it! My desire is to enrich the entire tech stack but I'm looking for two specific types of Tech, "AWS" & "Kubernetes", once all the ones have been populated is there a way to filter out the ones that contain either both or either of above?
Benjamin K.
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i.e. for this lead I've had to run the enrichment twice to both get all and then a second time to see if it has either of my two desired techs
Clay T.
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Yeah, in this instance, you only need to use one Predict Leads enrichment column. If you don't add any technology names, it'll pull every tech that is visible in the company's domain including AWS & Kubernetes, if detected. You can then use the "Find Keyword" Feature (it's free) in the enrich data tab to search "Technologies Found" for "AWS" & "Kubernetes"
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Benjamin K.
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Heard - thanks boss!
Clay T.
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Glad it helped! Sorry about the delay🙏🏽
Benjamin K.
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Not your fault - gotta argue for more headcount on the support squad 😉
Benjamin K.
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Hello - picking this up again within the same thread so that you have context. When utilizing Builtwith for enriching Tech Stack Data there's an option to set a Technology filter. This then trickles down to Predictleads if the data has not been found. However, I don't want to scrape with Builtwith at all as I find Predictleads method for getting the data I require more reliable. But, when setting Predictleads as the main data-provider the option for setting a Technology filter disappears. How can I set a technology filter for "AWS, Kubernetes" with only Predictleads? Thank you
Benjamin K.
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Furthermore, if these keywords are set - can I set an "And" condition rather than an "Or" condition on the filter?
Frederik H.
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I mean you can just select the single enrichment instead of waterfall. Then you also have the option in predict leads to filter for Tech Stack. Is that what you are looking for?
Benjamin K.
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I see - that would do it for the first part. Thanks! For the second, how would I set and/or statements? Ideally that would be able to set something like: "AWS" or "Amazon Web Services" and "Kubernetes" or "K8S"
Frederik H.
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I think comma seperating your values in that list is already an OR Statement.
Benjamin K.
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It gives me invalid formula when using commas and +'s
Frederik H.
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Can you provide a screenshot?
Benjamin K.
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one sec
Benjamin K.
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Frederik H.
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Change your input type on the settings button to "Text with tokens" Currently you have selected "Formula"
Benjamin K.
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Benjamin K.
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Does this look right? Do you have documentation for how this syntax works?
Benjamin K.
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From the outside this looks like it wouldn't take into consideration the "+" as an And statement but rather looks at the entire string as an input to evaluate against?
Frederik H.
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Yes right. You can use the input like I did in the example. Then you can check in the output field for combinations with a formula.
Benjamin K.
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Benjamin K.
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These result in an Or statement and will populate if it finds either of these
Frederik H.
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Yes right. Then you can check for tech count found > 1
Frederik H.
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PredictLeads will charge credits you eventhough it does not find anything. So it does not matter to use an AND Statement. I would suggest to choose builtwith anyways, since its much more reliable IMO
Benjamin K.
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I agree with that but Builtwith doesn't collect data in the same way
Benjamin K.
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They simply scrape the website while predictleads stores data from historic job posts
Benjamin K.
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afaik
Benjamin K.
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But I didn't know that predictleads charged for all searches.
Frederik H.
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Learned that the hard way 😄
Benjamin K.
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I think unfortunately I'm stuck with that option because builtwith can't locate whether a company is using K8S based off of the site-data
Frederik H.
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In that case I would search like you did in your last screenshot, and then check for tech count > 1 right?
Frederik H.
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In case it HAS to be a combination of both
Benjamin K.
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Cheers Fred - appreciate the help!
Frederik H.
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No worries. Not sure if thats the best way tho. There might be a way of writing a formula that checks if both is included. IDK. But like I said. PredictLeads charges anyways. so that would do the trick in your use case I think.