I have this table of more than 3000 companies, but when I run a find people search, the amount it pulls back seems way too low. These are all UK companies with over 50 employees, and when I did the find people search with the filters for managers and above, it returned 200 people. I appreciate some profiles will be private but looks like something isn't working
If I add founder, owner, CEO, and Managing Director it pulls back 4 results!
Okay, so it seems to now be working—very strange. I do have a quick question, though. If I want to get everyone, is it better to first search companies and find people rather than find people with a company filter? The difference I can see is that with the Find People, it looks for people based on matching domains, and the Find People, looking from a company's table uses the LinkedIn URL. Any advice to maximize coverage would be much appreciated.
Hello Callum! We apologize for the previous delays in enrichment. Both of those methods should yield identical results, as they do the same in the backend. Both methods will match to a company's linkedin url. On that note, if you input a domain, we map the domain to a linkedin url and then do the search, so it is always better to use linkedin urls. For other general tips, I recommend airing on the side of broad search filters, particularly in job titles. Also, make sure to put all the potential titles someone could have that match what you are looking for. For example if you are looking for decision makers, you should add 'CEO' and 'Chief Executive Officer', as well as 'co-founder' and 'co-owner'. In the case above, you might want to try searching just 'director' as well, since some people might have a title equivalent to managing director but under a different name.
Interesting it seems to be getting slightly different results. I tried doing a find people adding the same company filters as I did when starting with companies and the number of people it's returning is different. I'm not using any exact roles just the seniority filters in the Clay interface. Might be worth you doing some experiments to see if it returns exactly the same number of results for you.
This is the people search with the same company filters - https://app.clay.com/workspaces/304087/tables/t_jxHoFBBytUaw/views/gv_U8exeoxugTjp
Hm, I see. Do you mind sending the link to the table where the companies are? I'll go in and take a look.
This is the company table for doing the following people search - https://app.clay.com/workspaces/304087/tables/t_JZQWDgtpJsrC/views/gv_Mn8a95DTSHjc
This is the people from that company search - https://app.clay.com/workspaces/304087/tables/t_VtfzrjU5Z3zC/views/gv_U3K2Emx3Yvmh
Less than half the results from what should be the same
did you find anything?
I am looking into definitive details, but I think what happens here is the following: When you make a company table and use the company identifiers there to find people, you are using 25k (max) companies as identifiers. However if you put the company attributes in the people search filter, you are not subject to this limit since the search happens entirely in the back end.
I don't thnk thats the case as there are only 17,000 and something in the company table. Are you saying the company table hit the limit?
And because the company table hit the limit it has limited the number of people, maybe i'm not understanding what you're saying.
Ok I just got some proof of what I said earlier. Here's what I mean: If the companies you are using as input for a people search are populated in a table, you are subject to the number constraints for that table. In this case, 25k. However if you use the companies as input without having them in a table (which is what putting the same filters under company attributes in a people search does), then you are not held back by the 25k limit and can use more companies as input. If you go into your people tables, notice I added a lookup enrichment in both tables. The lookup enrichment compare the company domains in one table to the other. The people search based on the company table find that almost all of its company domains are also in the direct people search table. However, the direct people search table finds that a lot of its company domains are not in the search table based on the company table. This is indicative that one of the used more companies as input than the other.
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