Discrepancy between Clay automation and LinkedIn employee numbers

Vladimir Gromozdin · 2024-01-15 13:17:02.606642+00

I am running Clay automation, which shall return the total number of employees in the company and the number of people with specific job titles. The numbers don't match with what I see on LinkedIn. See details in the replies.

Discrepancy between Clay automation and LinkedIn employee numbers | Clay

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Vladimir Gromozdin
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This is the table: https://app.clay.com/workspaces/137054/tables/t_wOfY7P8pEZoD/views/gv_lJaOAOLJ5w8A See this company as an example: https://uk.linkedin.com/company/the-digital-maze LinkedIn says they have 49 employees, 6 with SEO in their job title. Clay gives me 52 employees & 0 SEO job titles.
Clay Team
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Hey, thanks for reaching out, sorry for the delay! Taking a look
Clay Team
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Ah, yes! We recently reported this to the dev team so we can check with the sources. To explain what may be going on, this is likely because our LinkedIn integrations don't use your active session or cookies to find data on LinkedIn. The tradeoff is that it could miss some information here and there, especially if there are privacy restrictions in their profiles, meaning that you need to be logged into an account to see all the data, that could be a limitation set by LinkedIn or the person themselves. (This is also something we're keeping track of because it appears LI is changing stuff around which is limiting how much info is accessible unless you have a paid account or something like that)We're continuously working on these tools to improve coverage though!
Vladimir Gromozdin
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Arturo (Clay) is there any way to grab the real data through Clay without employing Phantom Buster?
Vladimir Gromozdin
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Arturo (Clay), could you please tell me more about each case when the data above is not correct individually? They have different natures. If you look into https://uk.linkedin.com/company/the-digital-maze employees and take Jonathan (he can be found via Digital Maze employees with SEO titles), he has no employment history with Digital Maze. I guess this agency had been acquired by Boom, but I need to understand where Clay's data comes from. Here are additional cases:
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https://www.linkedin.com/company/clarity-digital-agency/people/ (why there’s inconsistency between data from Clay and their Linkedin page)
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There’s also Wisevu which has 1 role in Clay but at least three on linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/search/results/people/?currentCompany=%5B%2215196016%22%5D&origin=FACETED_SEARCH&sid=d1a&titleFreeText=SEO
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And the last one. OptiMerch from Germany. They have at least 3 people with SEO titles, but Clay shows two: https://www.linkedin.com/search/results/people/?currentCompany=%5B%2211848805%22%5D&origin=FACETED_SEARCH&sid=AzI&titleFreeText=SEO
Vladimir Gromozdin
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And the last question - can you tell me how old is the data that Clay shows? Is it 30 days old? 3 months old, and does it depend individually for every company?
Arturo (Clay)
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Hey Vladimir, sorry for the delay. Catching up here
Arturo (Clay)
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Unfortunately, our tools are limited to what the providers can collect themselves. Phantombuster or similar scrapers are as real-time as it can get though, and being able to collect any other information that LI could be guarding under a "log in" wall
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Arturo (Clay)
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Will take a look at the example in just a sec.
Arturo (Clay)
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Ah, I see now. This is likely because our LinkedIn integrations don't use your active session or cookies to find data on LinkedIn, and the providers for these tools are limited to some extent by LI blocks. Since it doesn't use an active session or cookies, the tradeoff is that it could miss some information here and there, especially if there are privacy restrictions in their profiles, meaning that you need to be logged into an account to see all the data, that could be a limitation set by LinkedIn or the person themselves. We're continuously working on these tools to improve coverage though!
Vladimir Gromozdin
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Arturo (Clay), sorry for being such a pain. It doesn't look like it's the case - this guy Jonathan has clearly no employment history with Digital Maze. Can you please ask someone from the team to look into these 3 cases and tell us why Clay returns the data as it does?
Arturo (Clay)
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Sure! I’ll relay for a deeper analysis and double-check myself
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Vladimir Gromozdin
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Thank you
Vladimir Gromozdin
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Would you let me know in the thread when you get a chance to look into that, please?
Clay Team
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Vladimir Gromozdin, I think I see the issue now. I'll just send you a loom to explain more
:sparkles-clay:1

Vladimir Gromozdin
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This is the table: https://app.clay.com/workspaces/137054/tables/t_wOfY7P8pEZoD/views/gv_lJaOAOLJ5w8A See this company as an example: https://uk.linkedin.com/company/the-digital-maze LinkedIn says they have 49 employees, 6 with SEO in their job title. Clay gives me 52 employees & 0 SEO job titles.
Clay Team
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Hey, thanks for reaching out, sorry for the delay! Taking a look
Clay Team
APP
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Ah, yes! We recently reported this to the dev team so we can check with the sources. To explain what may be going on, this is likely because our LinkedIn integrations don't use your active session or cookies to find data on LinkedIn. The tradeoff is that it could miss some information here and there, especially if there are privacy restrictions in their profiles, meaning that you need to be logged into an account to see all the data, that could be a limitation set by LinkedIn or the person themselves. (This is also something we're keeping track of because it appears LI is changing stuff around which is limiting how much info is accessible unless you have a paid account or something like that)We're continuously working on these tools to improve coverage though!
Vladimir Gromozdin
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Arturo (Clay) is there any way to grab the real data through Clay without employing Phantom Buster?
Vladimir Gromozdin
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Arturo (Clay), could you please tell me more about each case when the data above is not correct individually? They have different natures. If you look into https://uk.linkedin.com/company/the-digital-maze employees and take Jonathan (he can be found via Digital Maze employees with SEO titles), he has no employment history with Digital Maze. I guess this agency had been acquired by Boom, but I need to understand where Clay's data comes from. Here are additional cases:
1.
https://www.linkedin.com/company/clarity-digital-agency/people/ (why there’s inconsistency between data from Clay and their Linkedin page)
2.
There’s also Wisevu which has 1 role in Clay but at least three on linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/search/results/people/?currentCompany=%5B%2215196016%22%5D&origin=FACETED_SEARCH&sid=d1a&titleFreeText=SEO
3.
And the last one. OptiMerch from Germany. They have at least 3 people with SEO titles, but Clay shows two: https://www.linkedin.com/search/results/people/?currentCompany=%5B%2211848805%22%5D&origin=FACETED_SEARCH&sid=AzI&titleFreeText=SEO
Vladimir Gromozdin
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And the last question - can you tell me how old is the data that Clay shows? Is it 30 days old? 3 months old, and does it depend individually for every company?
Arturo (Clay)
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Hey Vladimir, sorry for the delay. Catching up here
Arturo (Clay)
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Unfortunately, our tools are limited to what the providers can collect themselves. Phantombuster or similar scrapers are as real-time as it can get though, and being able to collect any other information that LI could be guarding under a "log in" wall
👀1
Arturo (Clay)
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Will take a look at the example in just a sec.
Arturo (Clay)
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Ah, I see now. This is likely because our LinkedIn integrations don't use your active session or cookies to find data on LinkedIn, and the providers for these tools are limited to some extent by LI blocks. Since it doesn't use an active session or cookies, the tradeoff is that it could miss some information here and there, especially if there are privacy restrictions in their profiles, meaning that you need to be logged into an account to see all the data, that could be a limitation set by LinkedIn or the person themselves. We're continuously working on these tools to improve coverage though!
Vladimir Gromozdin
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Arturo (Clay), sorry for being such a pain. It doesn't look like it's the case - this guy Jonathan has clearly no employment history with Digital Maze. Can you please ask someone from the team to look into these 3 cases and tell us why Clay returns the data as it does?
Arturo (Clay)
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Sure! I’ll relay for a deeper analysis and double-check myself
🙏1
Vladimir Gromozdin
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Thank you
Vladimir Gromozdin
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Would you let me know in the thread when you get a chance to look into that, please?
Clay Team
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Vladimir Gromozdin, I think I see the issue now. I'll just send you a loom to explain more
:sparkles-clay:1