Struggling to Identify Hiring Manager for Job Posting: Methods Used

Louis M. · 2024-10-26T13:55:17.580Z

i am trying to find the hiring manager for a specific job posting, but i am struggling to do it here are methods i used : • claygent ◦ only comes back with rocketreach searches, *not relevant* • apollo with filters to target + prompt to find the right people ◦ apollo data is *not fresh* enough in France for the small accounts i target, i only get people who are not working at the company anymore • function find contacts at company + prompt to find the right people ◦ data is a bit fresher in this function, yet not up do date ◦ and there i have a *big issue*, my prompt is giving me people that are absolutely not relevant, that are not in the array given by "find contacts at company" function -> someone experienced this issue here is my prompt : ```Given this job opening and list of potential hiring managers with their LinkedIn URLs, return only the LinkedIn URL of the person most likely to be the hiring manager. job opening : Job offer list of potential hiring managers : people For each person in People array: 1. Check person["Headline"] explicitly before any other evaluation 2. Exclude the candidate immediately if their Headline contains any variation of: - "Open to" - "Looking for" - "Seeking" - "Available for" - "In transition" - "Job seeker" 3. For remaining candidates, evaluate: - Current Title field - Current Company matches job posting company - Management/leadership position relevance Return only the LinkedIn URL of the most qualified person who passes ALL above criteria.```

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Hey Louis M.
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Use the find active job openings integrations. Check the option to return only those job ads with a hiring manager associated with them.
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Extract the JD and location details.
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Use Claygent to run a Boolean search to confirm the details from step 1
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Use another Claygent column to search for the HR manager of that location.
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Use another Claygent column to compare the results of step 3 and 4.
Louis M.
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thanks for the tip but the source of data is not clay native open job postings scrapper, i use an external scrapper
Adnan M.
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Which scraper are you using?
Louis M.
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Apify
Louis M.
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the hiring manager is not specified on the jobboard i scrape
Louis M.
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otherwise it would be too simple 😅
Adnan M.
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What data points is the Apify actor providing?
Louis M.
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i have the company linkekIn url - job desc etc, but no info on the manager
Adnan M.
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If you have the job location, you can run Claygent to perform a Boolean search to find all hiring managers working at that location.
Louis M.
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i tried that, but it's not working from what i understand, claygent doesn't have access to linkedin data because we can only access it when logged so claygent will find data on third party public websites that are not accurate, at least for my region in France
Adnan M.
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I meant Boolean Google search.
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Hi there! 👋 Thanks for sharing all the methods you’ve tried—sounds like you’re being thorough in your approach! To effectively find the hiring manager for a specific job posting, using Claygent with the GPT model is a great option. Here’s how you can adjust your setup: 1. Use the “Help Me” Button in Claygent: • Clearly outline the information you have (e.g., job title, company, location). • Create a prompt like: • “I have the following information: {Job Title}, {Company Name}, {Location}. Find the hiring manager for this position.If none found, return the potential leader/boss of that role” https://downloads.intercomcdn.com/i/o/w28k1kwz/1229848754/72208036473a05158e07562631df/e0c38f5d-41b0-4579-ac4c-10e2e1aeed9e?expires=1729956600&signature=11fdb5d945f4ae06045b710946c03e8d0a0cb95ce5b0ba4561b2194688ec8f03&req=dSIlH8F6lYZaXfMW1HO4zbi%2BXslHTinzOkgHPSXXsfojC%2BmaGlgLnKL6nFe3%0ACVYG%0A 2. Make sure to include any relevant filters or criteria specific to the hiring manager, such as ensuring their title matches a managerial or leadership role. 3. Target the Right Model: • Ensure you’re using the latest GPT model in Claygent, as it’s designed to handle such precise searches more effectively. This should help refine your search and provide more relevant results. If you need more guidance or support with setting up the prompt, just let me know! 😊
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💤 You've caught us outside of our support hours (9am-9pm EST), but don't worry - we'll be back in touch within 24 hours (often sooner!). If you haven't already, please include the URL of your table in the thread below so that we can help you as quickly as possible!
Adnan M.
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Hey Louis M.
1.
Use the find active job openings integrations. Check the option to return only those job ads with a hiring manager associated with them.
2.
Extract the JD and location details.
3.
Use Claygent to run a Boolean search to confirm the details from step 1
4.
Use another Claygent column to search for the HR manager of that location.
5.
Use another Claygent column to compare the results of step 3 and 4.
Louis M.
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thanks for the tip but the source of data is not clay native open job postings scrapper, i use an external scrapper
Adnan M.
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Which scraper are you using?
Louis M.
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Apify
Louis M.
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the hiring manager is not specified on the jobboard i scrape
Louis M.
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otherwise it would be too simple 😅
Adnan M.
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What data points is the Apify actor providing?
Louis M.
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i have the company linkekIn url - job desc etc, but no info on the manager
Adnan M.
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If you have the job location, you can run Claygent to perform a Boolean search to find all hiring managers working at that location.
Louis M.
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i tried that, but it's not working from what i understand, claygent doesn't have access to linkedin data because we can only access it when logged so claygent will find data on third party public websites that are not accurate, at least for my region in France
Adnan M.
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I meant Boolean Google search.
Bo (.
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Hi there! 👋 Thanks for sharing all the methods you’ve tried—sounds like you’re being thorough in your approach! To effectively find the hiring manager for a specific job posting, using Claygent with the GPT model is a great option. Here’s how you can adjust your setup: 1. Use the “Help Me” Button in Claygent: • Clearly outline the information you have (e.g., job title, company, location). • Create a prompt like: • “I have the following information: {Job Title}, {Company Name}, {Location}. Find the hiring manager for this position.If none found, return the potential leader/boss of that role” https://downloads.intercomcdn.com/i/o/w28k1kwz/1229848754/72208036473a05158e07562631df/e0c38f5d-41b0-4579-ac4c-10e2e1aeed9e?expires=1729956600&signature=11fdb5d945f4ae06045b710946c03e8d0a0cb95ce5b0ba4561b2194688ec8f03&req=dSIlH8F6lYZaXfMW1HO4zbi%2BXslHTinzOkgHPSXXsfojC%2BmaGlgLnKL6nFe3%0ACVYG%0A 2. Make sure to include any relevant filters or criteria specific to the hiring manager, such as ensuring their title matches a managerial or leadership role. 3. Target the Right Model: • Ensure you’re using the latest GPT model in Claygent, as it’s designed to handle such precise searches more effectively. This should help refine your search and provide more relevant results. If you need more guidance or support with setting up the prompt, just let me know! 😊
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